both secretary panetta, general dempsey, and in the current role at the white house have talked about the cyber threat. you were a big help in trying to help us get this cyber legislation passed. now, tell us what you think is the role of the cia in dealing with the cyber threat but in the area of human intelligence or -- i mean with the cia. you have a unique insight into it. you know what nsa does. you know what homeland security is supposed to do. tell us where you see the cia in this. >> well, first of all, the cyber threat this country faces is one of the most insidious to our national security and one that i think our government as a whole and this body, the congress, really needs to be focused on and do everything possible to prevent a devastating attack against this country because of the vulnerabilities in the cyber front. cia's traditional mission on the collection front is to try to determine the plans and intentions of foreign governments, foreign groups, national groups, and others. learning about those plans and intentions and the development of capabilities in the cyber